Grassroots morning show v.7 CyberMonday

What is “Cyber Monday” and how does it affect Montgomery County?

Watch and find out.

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24 Responses

  1. truddick November 30, 2009 / 1:15 pm
    Sales taxes are regressive and inherently unfair and should be abolished.

    Let’s face it: if I buy a car I can afford (say, a slightly used hybrid for $10K) and I have to pay 5% sales tax on it, then I wind up paying $500.  If one of the Walton heirs buys an affordable car (which for them is a new Tesla at $200,000) and they pay 5% sales tax on it, they pay $10K in takes.

    The math-illiterate will say yes, they’re richer than you and they will pay far more in taxes.  But that measly $500 is a full 1% of my annual income, while that $10K is around 0.1 of their annual income.

    Oh, and they there are the hidden taxes like the gasoline tax.  I will have to pay a lot more of that with my hybrid than they will with their luxury all-electric–even though my hybrid saves me a lot of taxes that the SUV lovers are paying.

    The only fair and reliable tax is a progressively bracketed income tax.  I’d favor eliminating all other general taxes except for the income tax and increasing it to cover necessary government.  That’s the only form of tax that takes money only when you have it, avoiding the punitive effects of sales or property taxes.

    Ancillary benefit: having a single tax structure would eliminate reams of paperwork and confusion.

    Final comment: if I must pay taxes to any government, then I get to vote in the election of that government.  Currently I pay taxes to Piqua but I have no say in how those taxes are used; that’s undemocratic.

  2. Bubba Jones November 30, 2009 / 4:38 pm
    So, David, are we now evil if we shop at the Best Buy in Beavercreek instead of the Best Buy in Miamisburg?  I don’t think that any rational person is seriously going to drive out of their way to save .5% on sales tax by purchasing in Greene County instead of Montgomery.  I’d go so far as to bet $$$$ with you that if you polled 100 Montgomery County residents, at random, that less than 10% of them could tell you what the sales tax rates were in both counties.  I’m going to shop where it’s easiest for me at the time I need something.  If I’m out by that traffic crazy mall in Beavercreek for some reason, I’ll stop at the Best Buy there.  If not, the one in Miamisburg is a lot closer for me and I’ll go there.
     
    Next, since you and Greg admit that you shop at places in NY via the internet, do you then remit the sales tax that would have been due to Ohio to Ohio?  That is the law, you know?  There’s a place on your tax return for that very purpose.  And, no,  just because you buy something that you use for business purposes, it’s not automatically excluded from sales tax.
  3. David Esrati November 30, 2009 / 5:16 pm

    @Roger- My cam doesn’t have the mic jack. That’s why I recommend the Kodak.

    @Bubba- the sales tax is .5% less in Greene County.

    For me- it’s easier to shop there than Miamisburg.

    As to sales tax- I’m pretty sure 99% of internet shoppers don’t remit the tax.

  4. Gene November 30, 2009 / 5:50 pm
    So David is breaking the law……… mental note for the next time he runs for office.
  5. Bubba Jones November 30, 2009 / 6:12 pm
    Yeah he is breaking the law, Gene!!  Notice how he didn’t directly address my question as to whether or not HE remits the tax – only that he’s pretty sure that 99% of internet shoppers don’t remit it.
     
    @David – Yes, the sales tax is .5% less in Greene than Montgomery.  I’m pretty sure I said the exact same thing in my post.  Since you shop in Green Co. because it’s “easier”, why are you bitching about others shopping there and “hurting” Montgomery Co.?  It’s OK for you to do it, but not others????
  6. Gene November 30, 2009 / 6:46 pm
    Bubba, you have stumbled upon something DE does often…… He was totally getting on the cases of people who shop in Greene CO. and then admits he shops in Greene Co. and on the Web. I think it is a liberal thing, point and blame others while you are “allowed” to do it.

    Like Bill Maher scoffing at the Doctor on his show, saying he was rich off hospitals……… Ahhh, Mr. Maher, you are rich from being a comedian. So who do you think we should pay more, doctors or comedians? Liberals, gotta love them. Their socialists ideas are just great, until the run out of other people’s money.

  7. Bill Daniels (PizzaBill) November 30, 2009 / 10:44 pm
    Gene,
    You’re alluding to the old adage “You’re a Democrat until you make some money, and then you quickly become a Republican.”  A lot of people change their socialistic thinking when they realize that the transfer payments required are going to come out of their own pockets.
     
  8. Allison November 30, 2009 / 11:03 pm
    “A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.” — G. Gordon Liddy
  9. Roger November 30, 2009 / 11:26 pm
    Do you often take advice from convicted felons?
  10. Gene November 30, 2009 / 11:27 pm
    There are certainly a lot of quotes…..

    but notice DE can not, will not defend his “hippy” position. Typical “Lib.”

    Liberals just are this way. Not sure why. Suggestions?

    “Spend money in Dayton……. I am going to the Best Buy in Beavertucky…..”

  11. Gene November 30, 2009 / 11:30 pm
    Yes, Roger, so long as the person is not a tax lovin’, money sucking, hypocritical liberal….. How about you?

    2nd chance… is that not a liberal drum to beat…..OH, it is, so long as it meets your agenda…..

  12. Bubba Jones December 1, 2009 / 7:07 am
    Gene – You only get a second chance if you’re a bank robber, child molester or father raper.  If  you’re convicted of littering or breaking into an office for a Republican president you don’t get a second chance.
     
     
  13. Roger December 1, 2009 / 4:05 pm
    My my. The goon factor here is getting almost as high as the DDN comments.
  14. Allison December 1, 2009 / 4:22 pm
    Ironically, I was just thinking the same thing.
  15. David Esrati December 1, 2009 / 4:48 pm

    @Roger and Allison- at least they are all known (to us). It’s sad that it denigrated down after TRuddick’s excellent starting comment.

  16. Gene December 1, 2009 / 4:58 pm
    It is sad you (DE) can’t/won’t answer the questions – It is sad to promote local coffee places but buy in Greene Co. or the Internet. It is sad that the host is hypocritical. Sad, very sad.
  17. David Esrati December 1, 2009 / 6:07 pm

    @Gene- does it matter that I can’t go to a Sam’s Club in Dayton? Or a BestBuy? Hmmmm. Maybe that’s because the people in the County didn’t do their jobs right long ago- with good planning.

    Most of my shopping is done within scooter distance of my house. And, I don’t drink coffee either.

  18. Gene December 1, 2009 / 6:21 pm
    Greg drinks the “local” coffee, champions it like he is a locavore, then shops on line in NY.

    DE – YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MONTGOERY CO SALES TAXES – , not Dayton. re-watch your own video. What is wrong with you? Did you forget what you said?

  19. David Esrati December 1, 2009 / 6:44 pm

    @Gene yup I was. And guess what, I’ve even been to the Greene.

  20. Gene December 1, 2009 / 7:26 pm
    So how can you lay a guilt trip on people who live in Dayton/Mont Co yet shop online or in Greene Co. – bc that was what you were doing. The tone in your voice suggests that we are all stupid for shopping elsewhere. Do you not see this? Is this why people don’t listen to you? You are kind of smart ass/know-it-all/Charlie Weis “I’m superior to you…”

    For real. I am not trying to be mean about it, but your smugness of the video is evident.

    Watch it again. You state “you are hurting Mont Co.”  ………. so what? You said you shop elsewhere, so you are hurting Mont Co. too…..

    Bill Maher Jr…..

  21. Bubba Jones December 2, 2009 / 8:32 am
    “Bill Maher Jr” – that’s funny, Gene!
     
    Yup, DE is showing his  hypocrisy once again with this.  If you shop in Greene Co., you’re hurting Montgomery Co. but it’s OK for him to shop there because it’s easier for him to get there.  If you buy off the internet, you’re hurting the county and the state, but it’s OK that he does it and he doesn’t bother to (lawfully) remit the sales tax that would have been due had he purchased from a site that had nexus in Ohio.  No tax breaks for businesses unless it’s the lame “walk to work tax credit” that he concocted.  No special set asides or preferential treatment for government contracts unless it’s for a veteran owned business (although, if my failing memory serves me correctly, he recently advocated preferences for minority owned businesses).
     
    @Roger – as far as “goon comments” are concerned, you’re a fine one to talk.  My comments about “father rapers” and “littering”  were purely sarcastic and were a reference to Arlo Guthrie’s iconic “Alice’s Restaurant Massacre” which resurfaces each year around this time.  If you’re not familiar with it, look it up.
     
    “TRuddick’s excellent starting comment”???  There was no original thought there, it was merely a regurgitation of the tried and true “regressive” argument.  This usually comes from someone in the wealth envy crowd.
  22. Greg Hunter December 2, 2009 / 1:51 pm
    Gene, I shop at JR in NY because they are the only shop that carries the models I am interested in purchasing.  The Best Buys in Dayton do not have the same products available that JR maintains.  Believe me I would love instant gratification if I could, but I cannot.  I would give you the retail story about why models/lines are not available, if you are interested.  I would shop strictly local if I could and I try to buy all of my produce and meat from local sources (2nd street market).  I would love to buy a lot more things local, and will, when given the chance.

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