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Who’s to blame for dead dropouts?

David Esrati |

July 21, 2024, 09:47 PM |

There it was all over my Facebook feed, comments about how wrong the Dayton cops were for shooting Brian “Big Juice” Moody and “Unaliving” him. “They shot him 8x, They shot him in the back” and “I’d run from the cops too, they just shoot black folks.” “We want an investigation” says the NAACP and some other Black leaders. Yet, when we’ve had one shooting after another, where someone just busts off a bunch of rounds at people having a “party” – there’s no outrage.

May 2nd 2024: Tommie Lee Shreck, 29 dies in shooting on first block of W. Norman Ave,

June 24, 2024: 10:20 a.m. 2 people shot South James H. McGee Boulevard and West Fifth Street in Dayton

June 24, 2024: multiple areas near the 1500 block of Home Avenue around 12:40 a.m. police found seven people with gunshot wounds. 1 died, 22-year-old Donna Zile, one fighting for their life died a few days later. Turns out 8 people were shot.

Turns out it was “Thirteen people were shot, including an 11-year-old boy, in three separate shootings Monday in Dayton that resulted in two deaths.

July 7, 2024: another shooting near the International School in West Dayton: “Around 40 casings were recovered after a fight early Sunday outside a Dayton school ended in gunfire with one man killed. Just before 3 a.m. Dayton officers responded to the area of Oakridge Drive and Geneva Road on a report of shots fired. When police arrived, they found 33-year-old Britton Harrison dead

I left this post to ponder for a bit, and then Trump gets shot too.

In the meantime, there have been a ton more shootings, and I don’t even feel like trying to list all of them. I’m sick of it. I’m also sick of people missing the point in these discussions. I’m going to tell the truth- and some of you aren’t going to like it. Y’all been lied to for so long, truth seems to be in short supply- and far from popular.

The one thing I agree with is that the Sheriff’s department shouldn’t be trusted to investigate the Moody shooting. This is the same Sheriff’s department that is unable to determine if one of their own officers is really in the military, and thinks it’s ok to pepper spray inmates in restraints and let autistic kids slam their heads into the wall resulting in dead kids. The Montgomery County Sheriff’s department isn’t fit to catch dogs right now.

The big question is when is the Black community going to realize that if you keep electing folks like Mims, Shaw and Joseph who think spending your tax dollars on flying electric taxis is more important than keeping your rec centers open 7 days a week, with actual programming for youth sports, this is what you get.

Mayor Jeff Mims claims outrage, yet, even with all his years as an educator and a school board member, a City Commissioner and now Mayor, he’s sitting and talking about “I am committed to pursuing new violence prevention measures” like what? You seem to think license plate readers, shot-spotter, and other techie solutions make up for the fact that you’ve let our city decay and closed every single outdoor pool? Where is scouting, youth sports, after school programming, and most of all, the parents?

Now, while some folks seem to think the gun that was on the ground next to “Big Juice” somehow got there via space aliens, instead of out of his hand, let’s be clear, we’re all to blame for electing moron republican gun nuts in this state and country. The “pistol” that was recovered had been converted to full auto- and had a 30 round clip with one in the chamber. That’s not a gun, it’s a mass murder machine that can empty a clip in less time than it takes you say the word alphabet, never mind recite it.

Who gave that gun to “Juice” and what was he going to do with it? Was he part of a well-regulated militia? Last I checked, you have to be at least 18 to buy a gun in Ohio, and no one gets a full-auto under 21 and without a lot of paperwork.

Unlike most of you, I was part of a “well-regulated militia” and in my training I actually shot a Mini-Uzi, an H&K MP5k and a MAC-10. All full auto machine pistols. There’s a reason the Army doesn’t hand out full-auto pistols- it’s almost impossible to shoot one accurately- compared to their larger siblings, and the high rate of fire is impractical for troops who have to be able to hump enough ammunition with them to be able to use their weapons when needed. No one ever needs a full auto pistol.

Had “Big Juice” fired at the cops, who were wearing body armor, he may have gotten lucky and killed one or both of them. Had he sprayed a group of people at a party- you’d have another 7 or 8 wounded with a few dead. Do either of those sound like good outcomes to you? Cleveland just had a cop get killed in the line of duty. Would these “community leaders” still be blaming the cops for “Big Juice” using the gun for what guns are made to be used for?

In the Army, we used to say “play stupid games, win stupid prizes” and that’s what “Big Juice” did. He won a Darwin award. If you don’t know what Darwin awards are- click the link, but he didn’t do it all by himself. We helped him.

We Americans continue to believe that owning guns makes us safer, when it’s obviously not true. American’s die from gunshots more than in any other industrialized nation- either in homicides or suicides. And before you start talking about all the poor Palestinians in Gaza, where the numbers of dead aren’t clearly delineated between Hamas and civilians, we shoot a lot more Americans with Guns every year and we’re “at peace.

Real gun control was something I had as a part of my platform for Congress, go read, and watch the videos I shared.

Besides the fact that we have way more guns than people in this country, we are surrounded by media that glorifies guns. You can see shooting after shooting on TV. Even though I love the movie “Die Hard” I know that John McClain’s triumphs over the evil criminals is pure fantasy land. Anyone who had access to all those full auto weapons and the kind of planning to pull off that attack, would have people who are well trained and know how to shoot. And when it comes to pistol vs machine guns- pistols lose. Every time.

And, that my friends, is why we should be thankful that “Big Juice” was killed by the police, and sad that he made the choices he made. Because, if the cops hadn’t killed him, he might have been killed by someone else, killed someone else, or ended up in prison.

We seem to have an endless supply of money to put people behind bars in this country, or to elect our leaders (we’re probably going to see $20B spent this election cycle) but we can’t seem to figure out how to keep “big Juice” off the streets and involved in school and healthy activities? According to his obituary he was involved in sports, but somewhere along the line, that all disappeared. He went to school at Emerson Academy- a block away from me. Somehow, somewhere, our community failed to support this kids healthy activities- and made the choice he made that made him “unalive” seem more desirable.

We need gun control in this country. We also need national health care. We need to make sure no kids are hungry. We need to stop addiction and drug use and take the profitability out of dealing dope. We need to make affordable housing really affordable. We need to do a whole lotta everything to turn this country around- but most importantly, we need to figure out what’s right and wrong again.

Right is when police shoot someone with an illegal gun.
Wrong is a kid who dropped out of school is packing a full auto pistol.

Any questions?

The song for this post: Justice for Juice

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Melissa

It’s so sad to see a young person lose their life for any reason, but especially tragic due to drugs, abuse and guns – all preventable.

Why did Brian Moody have that gun in his possession and where did he get it? I cannot imagine where a 16 year old teenager could buy/obtain something like that and be permitted to carry it around. I suppose the investigation will reveal some facts to explain it all.

Per recent media reports, it may be that Brian Moody ran from the police because he was in possession of that gun – something he clearly had no legal or moral need to have. I certainly don’t know.

When is it appropriate to recommend a child run away from law enforcement? Emotions are high right now, but it makes no sense to teach children to run from police when given a lawful command. A full investigation will be conducted and released to the public to understand. I would like to know where the gun came from and why this young man had it.

Dayton Commissioner Matt Joseph acknowledged the community failed its children. Other elected officials weighed in with their opinions and expressions of concern and future plans. It seems like a complicated problem, but what is clear is the guns are coming from somewhere and our youth are toting them around.
https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/dayton-community-members-demand-answers-after-teen-shot-and-killed-by-police/TE5U2ZECX5GNDESIM65UXZ4AZE/

Per a recent study, guns are now the leading cause of death among kids in the United States.
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2023-08-21/with-cases-soaring-guns-are-now-leading-cause-of-death-for-u-s-kids

Every child is precious. We must all come together to find a solution as to how the children get these guns, die with/from them, and what parents, adults in their lives, and the community at large, are going to do to prevent needless deaths in the future.

Tim Hart

Montgomery county is a democratic run county that explains why… People have to resort to illegal tactics to make money…. The Worse the economy the worse the crime !

I’m sure there are already laws on the books that if they were following the law none of this would’ve happened.

But what you get is outlaws who don’t follow laws and therefore put them and everybody else at risk.

Vote Trump for World Peace !

jonathan b

Very clear arguments, David. Thank you.

Melissa

Tim, you know about violating laws now, don’t you?

The only thing Trump and Peace have in common is that they are both five letter words. Mayhem and violence follow him everywhere.

The GOP VP nominee has even called Donald Trump “America’s Hitler”. A sad trifecta of death, destruction, waste: Hitler, Putin & Trump.

VOTE BLUE UP & DOWN BALLOT IN 2024.

Billy

Look who’s doing the shooting. There’s your problem. The biggest mistake our Founding Fathers made.

Melissa

Bill, you’re back from lightsaber combat practice!

Do tell, for we hang on your every word, who did the shooting?

What did the Founding Fathers get wrong?

Enquiring minds want to know.

Tim Hart

Yes, Melissa, I do know election laws like how they were changed illegally voiding many states elections due to Covid. They must be changed correctly to be valid. JD vance listen to the media just like you’ve been doing and all the others with Trump derangements syndrome. None of you actually know him never ever met him, but he’s Hitler so shame on you. Now JD‘s changed his mind after 4 years of Trump & met him….he saw the four years that were thriving in our country with the economy up until Covid, huh?

Trump 2024 !

Red Wave A Coming !

Melissa

I know, Tim. It is rather shocking to read and hear that JD Vance referred to Donald Trump as “America’s Hitler”, but those records and media coverage are in the public domain for all to see. I’m glad you agree it is shameful and you are not suffering from TDS.
https://www.businessinsider.com/jd-vance-roommate-says-published-donald-trump-america-hitler-message-2024-7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t48IhPDEuds

It goes without saying that no one would want anyone remotely like Adolf Hitler running our country. I watched the Rise of the Nazis documentary series recently and am amazed by the similarities in the political means, violence, and autocratic outcomes in the years leading up to, and through, Hitler’s fascist years – then and now (especially episodes 2-4).

Here’s a link to see for yourself. It’s eerily uncanny how similar!
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfMrqOdrCidR_HQR6zHBnSaREKkLpBPpM

The Project 2025 plan is Donald Drumpf’s very own Mein Kampf.

Tim Hart

Melissa come on now the Hitler talk is bullshit and you know it. He was already president for four years you survived. Nobody got shipped out unless they were here illegally so stop with your crazy talk rhetoric fear mongering bullshit. It doesn’t work anymore.

Melissa

I agree with you, Tim, that injecting Hitler into American politics is a gaseous business. Unfortunately, JD Vance typed those words when he was studying to be a lawyer at Yale. Vance believed it then. I’ll wager that, deep down, he believes it still. Time has a way of showing posers and fakers for who they really are. JD Vance was recently crowned GOP Veep nominee by that old letch and convicted felon Donald Trump, but Vance apparently thinks the American people are simply too stupid to fully vet their potential leaders. Vance didn’t change his mind. He merely morphed into Trump’s image to be more palatable to Don the Con’s perverted appetites. https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvn4b8/jd-vance-trump-messages George H. W. Bush did the same thing when Ronald Reagan tapped Bush on the shoulder for the Veepstakes and required him to flip flop from pro choice to no choice for women. The heady scent of power was too irresistible and Bush caved. Reagan did the same thing when he left the California governorship to run for the Presidency. Fortunately, the written record lives on for fact checking and all to read. The Republican Party’s War on Women continues unabated. https://www.npr.org/2018/12/04/673398023/looking-back-on-president-george-h-w-bushs-legacy-on-abortion Donald Trump and JD Vance are both authors who wrote books selling their particular versions of who they are, where they come from, and their ideologies. Those booklets have been fact checked and found to be wanting for a variety of reasons. Apparently, both men suffered from unavailable mothers and a dearth of proper role model fathers. Per his own wife #1 Ivana’s tell all, Donald Trump didn’t want to name his first born son after himself because he was afraid the newborn would grow up to be a “Loser”. Talk about a self-fulfilling prophesy. JD Vance just changed his surname since his own old man rejected him. It’s no wonder Trump and Vance fail as fully developed men. It might be too late for The Donald to seek self help, but there is still time for Liddle’ Jimmy Bowman to make a change. https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/News/ivana-trump-opens-surprising-facts-life-donald-trump/story?id=50330454 Combined with Project 2025 directives, both of these men… Read more »

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