Basic service delivery in Dayton Ohio: Street sweeping: FAIL

Street sweeping is the most basic of service. It’s not rocket science.

Then why can’t we get it right in Dayton?

sorry- when I first uploaded the video- it was marked private by accident (FAIL) it should work now.

If New York City can manage to get people to park on even and odd sides of the street to get them cleaned properly, why can’t we in Dayton?

If we focused on basic services instead of chasing “development”- maybe the developers would like to develop here just because Dayton is a great place to do business.

Effective street sweeping, snow plowing, police protection and other basic public services should be a great start.

If you want effective public service, it’s time to elect people who understand public service, not- just service to developers and corporations looking for corporate welfare. It seems that most of the news out of City Hall is about spending on silver bullets, service cuts or arguments with labor. When was the last time you heard a discussion about how to deliver a better living experience for all Daytonians? When did you hear someone ask does this benefit all of Dayton, or just a small subset. We have our own local pork machine- instead of an effective government.

The first question for our city manager once I’m elected: Who is in charge of citizen service? What is your system for delivery of outstanding service. And, why can’t we sweep the streets- without the cars so the job is done right the first time?

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This is Dayton, not Oakwood. People in Dayton rarely mow their lawns, so stuff in the street is common and expected. You want filet mignon at happy meal prices.

Drexel Dave Sparks

I wouldn’t call the highest income tax in the county happy meal prices.


Well, for most that live in Dayton, that is 2.5% from ZERO income, so ZIP is still ZIP in D’Ville.

Or, for those who bother to make money, drug dealers rarely pay income tax plus there is a lot of underground cash operation that don’t pay any tax – go to any construction site, or where Mexicans are hanging out, or 90% of the service jobs and you will find plenty of people who circumvent the tax issue. There simply is not enough money to care about street sweeping.

Still, people hardly mow their lawn or clean up their yards in Dayton, so who cares? Oh that is right, Esrati cares while are schools are shit, people are out of work, and crime sky rockets………… but clean streets are important, please.

Take care of the beggars in the OD before this garbage – you do that and you solve the annoying begging issue plus these are the same people who throw butts in the street while shaking the trees so the leafs fall in the street as well. Damn bums.

Drexel Dave Sparks

Wow, you really must be miserable if that is how you predominantly view this town.

I can’t count the wonderful interactions I have with people every day. I don’t paint the most with the few.


I love this town, and the people. A lot of them, though, don’t pay taxes. That is just a fact.

Why do you think I hate Dayton? BC of the tax thing or the “don’t clean up their own yards” thing? A lot of people in Dayton are lazy in regards to how their house and yards look. I thought you drove a bus DD, if so, you pass by them ALL THE TIME. The beggar thing is somewhat of a joke – and, btw, it does exist in the OD. “Hey man, you got a buck. I ran out of gas……..” Never in my life have I ever come close to running out of gas, but GD you go into any urban area and all of the sudden it becomes the world’s biggest frickin problem. I just tell them to go play in traffic.

I don’t care if people do drugs or circumvent tax law – I actually support it. I think taxes are bullshit, and most everyone does bc they hate paying them. But when Daytonians circumvent the tax laws, it is somehow noble, Give me a break. We need some taxes, but you guys want them from the rich only, and then for cleaner streets? How about smarter kids!


FYI, The street sweepers are paid from Water Department funds. What washes off the streets end up in the rivers, that’s how they justify it. Just another way the general fund steals from the water fund.

Michael Wietzel
Michael Wietzel

Boring history note:
The City used to pay for two street sweepings a year from the general fund. Then, when Helwig was manager, it was changed so that every address was charged for ground water clean up. Originally it was a separate bill (which I urged so that everybody would be aware of it), but latter it was collected along with your water bill, which saves money on postage and makes the charge less obvious. This separate charge was used to pay for two street sweepings a year and to produce some anti-litter literature. It has never been used to actually clean anything other than your money out of your wallet. Since the general fund wasn’t paying for the services anymore, it freed up some money in the general fund. They get to collect more revenue without officially raising taxes. This approach worked so well that the City now has various “fees” they charge. You see, if they call it a tax, it has to be approved by voters, but Commission can set fees administratively. And, unlike taxes, everybody pays. You want water – pay the fee. Fees are supposed to be for extra or special services like a building permit or to play a round of golf, but if everybody has to pay them and it’s used for basic services, isn’t it more like a tax? And now they have enough extra money from this fund to pay for the bushes and greenery they want to put on the roof of the City building. This is supposed to alleviate the ground water runoff from the roof. Frankly, I’m not that worried about rain getting into the river and I’d rather have my money back.