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Did Debbie Lieberman commit a crime?

Did Debbie Lieberman commit a crime going to work for Mike Foley in Montgomery County Ohio

From the agenda of the Montgomery County Commission meeting of 17 Dec 2024:

24-1957 Auth. a Lease Option Renewal with Randolph Investments, LLC, on behalf of the Clerk of Courts Auto Title Division, for the leasing of 1,000 sq. ft. of office space located in the Randolph Plaza Shopping Center, at an annual rate of $9,500 through December 31, 2025.

24-1958 Auth. a Letter of Understanding with the Clerk of Courts for the leasing of 230 sq. ft. of office space at the Westown Employment Opportunity Center, at an annual rate of $1,766.40 through December 31, 2025, with options to renew.

Outgoing County Commissioner Ms. Debbie Lieberman voted for these two expenditures by the county to her future employer, Mike Foley Clerk of Courts (who is currently under investigation for multiple ethics violations) [1].

According to ORC Section 102.03 | Representation by present or former public official or employee prohibited. [2]

(A)(1) No present or former public official or employee shall, during public employment or service or for twelve months thereafter, represent a client or act in a representative capacity for any person on any matter in which the public official or employee personally participated as a public official or employee through decision, approval, disapproval, recommendation, the rendering of advice, investigation, or other substantial exercise of administrative discretion.

And then section 5-6:

(5) As used in divisions (A)(1), (2), and (3) of this section, “matter” includes any case, proceeding, application, determination, issue, or question, but does not include the proposal, consideration, or enactment of statutes, rules, ordinances, resolutions, or charter or constitutional amendments. As used in division (A)(4) of this section, “matter” includes the proposal, consideration, or enactment of statutes, resolutions, or constitutional amendments. As used in division (A) of this section, “represent” includes any formal or informal appearance before, or any written or oral communication with, any public agency on behalf of any person.

(6) Nothing contained in division (A) of this section shall prohibit, during such period, a former public official or employee from being retained or employed to represent, assist, or act in a representative capacity for the public agency by which the public official or employee was employed or on which the public official or employee served.

and second half of section 8:

However, no public official or employee of a state agency shall, during public employment or for twelve months thereafter, represent or act in a representative capacity for the official’s or employee’s new state agency on any audit or investigation pertaining to the official’s or employee’s new state agency in which the public official or employee personally participated at the official’s or employee’s former state agency through decision, approval, disapproval, recommendation, the rendering of advice, investigation, or other substantial exercise of administrative discretion.

Section 10:

(D) No public official or employee shall use or authorize the use of the authority or influence of office or employment to secure anything of value or the promise or offer of anything of value that is of such a character as to manifest a substantial and improper influence upon the public official or employee with respect to that person’s duties.

(E) No public official or employee shall solicit or accept anything of value that is of such a character as to manifest a substantial and improper influence upon the public official or employee with respect to that person’s duties.

(F) No person shall promise or give to a public official or employee anything of value that is of such a character as to manifest a substantial and improper influence upon the public official or employee with respect to that person’s duties….

Except as provided in division (H)(2) of this section, this division and divisions (D), (E), and (F) of this section do not prohibit a public official or employee who is not required to file a financial disclosure statement under section 102.02 [3] of the Revised Code from accepting and do not prohibit a person from promising or giving to that public official or employee an honorarium or the payment of travel, meal, and lodging expenses if the honorarium, expenses, or both were paid in recognition of demonstrable business, professional, or esthetic interests of the public official or employee that exist apart from public office or employment, including, but not limited to, such a demonstrable interest in public speaking and were not paid by any person or other entity, or by any representative or association of those persons or entities, that is regulated by, doing business with, or seeking to do business with the department, division, institution, board, commission, authority, bureau, or other instrumentality of the governmental entity with which the public official or employee serves….

(J) For purposes of divisions (D), (E), and (F) of this section, the membership of a public official or employee in an organization shall not be considered, in and of itself, to be of such a character as to manifest a substantial and improper influence on the public official or employee with respect to that person’s duties. As used in this division, “organization” means a church or a religious, benevolent, fraternal, or professional organization that is tax exempt under subsection 501(a) and described in subsection 501(c)(3), (4), (8), (10), or (19) of the “Internal Revenue Code of 1986.” This division does not apply to a public official or employee who is an employee of an organization, serves as a trustee, director, or officer of an organization, or otherwise holds a fiduciary relationship with an organization. This division does not allow a public official or employee who is a member of an organization to participate, formally or informally, in deliberations, discussions, or voting on a matter or to use the public official’s or employee’s official position with regard to the interests of the organization on the matter if the public official or employee has assumed a particular responsibility in the organization with respect to the matter or if the matter would affect that person’s personal, pecuniary interests.

Unfortunately, laws aren’t written by skilled writers, they are written by lawyers and legislators, so interpreting this verbal barrage of diarrhea is almost impossible. But it would seem that the state legislature didn’t want people in office to work for people they had oversight and financial responsibilities over.

Since I’m not a lawyer or a judge, or someone who works for the Ohio Ethics Commission, I asked ChatGPT to interpret the law- and pull out the relevant points, and confirm my suspicions. It chose the same sections to highlight as I did and gave me this response:

This section of the Ohio Revised Code outlines ethics rules and restrictions for public officials and employees, with particular focus on conflicts of interest, improper influence, and post-employment activities. Here’s a summary of how it could apply to the scenario you described:

1. Potential Application to the Scenario

  • Section (A)(1) prohibits former public officials from acting in a representative capacity for any matter they personally participated in for 12 months after leaving public office. If the outgoing commissioner allocated funds and then was hired into a role influenced by that decision, it could be seen as a violation of this section, especially if the position or funding was connected to her previous official actions.
  • Section (D) prohibits public officials from using their position to secure something of value that creates a substantial and improper influence. If the commissioner’s vote directly led to her own employment, this might be construed as using her office to gain personal benefit improperly.
  • Section (E) prohibits soliciting or accepting anything of value that might improperly influence duties. Employment in a “made-up job” after allocating funds could be interpreted as improperly influenced.

2. Purpose of the Law

This legislation is designed to prevent public officials from:

  • Using their positions for personal gain.
  • Creating arrangements that might undermine public trust or create conflicts of interest.
  • Representing or benefiting from decisions they influenced while in office.

The hiring of a former commissioner for a position influenced by their final official actions seems like exactly the type of conflict the law aims to prevent.

3. Penalties

The legislation does not explicitly outline penalties within this section, but violations of ethics laws often involve:

  • Administrative penalties, such as fines.
  • Criminal penalties, depending on the severity, under related statutes (e.g., bribery, misuse of office).
  • Revocation of improperly obtained benefits (e.g., termination of employment).
  • Referral to the Ohio Ethics Commission for investigation and enforcement.

4. Next Steps

  • Consult the Ohio Ethics Commission: The Commission enforces these laws and provides advisory opinions.
  • Investigate Further: Gather evidence about the commissioner’s involvement in the funding decision and the nature of her new role.
  • Review Related Laws: Other laws in the Ohio Revised Code (e.g., Chapter 2921 on corruption) might also apply.

In summary, based on this legislation, the outgoing commissioner’s actions might constitute a violation if her vote directly led to personal employment benefits. The situation warrants further investigation and likely consultation with the Ohio Ethics Commission.

I have zero faith in the Ohio Ethics Commission from my previous attempts to get them to act upon my discovery that revealed that Dr. Adil Baguirov broke multiple state and federal laws pertaining to residency, voter registration and financial disclosures [4] when he was on the Dayton School Board. The Ethics commission also totally ignored when Lieberman and her former assistant/current campaign manager, John Theobald, steered public health no-bid contracts to “The Wilderness Agency” run by Richard Kaiser and… cofounded (later admission) John Theobald. Read about that here- and how I was threatend with a lawsuit by Lieberman’s husband, former Montgomery County Democratic Party Chair, Dennis Lieberman [5].

However, by posting this, and then forwarding it to them for review, we may get some attention.

Here’s the agenda of her final meeting:

And here is the description of Ms. Lieberman’s new position which Foley announced on the Clerk of Courts Facebook page on Dec 19,2024, 2 days after she voted to appropriate funds to his office. Lieberman is supposed to be the Clerk of Courts “director of community development” whatever that means. Considering the clerk also has a full-time former TV journalist as his “Director of Communications” [6]you’ve got to wonder what’s next? The Clerk of Courts Public Arts Director. If you are interested in what the Clerk of Courts is legally allowed to do (which includes none of this insanity) you can review ORC 1907.20 [7]

Considering this video had to be produced before it’s launch date of 18 Dec 2024, she had to know when she voted to hand the money over to her future boss.

Now, we can wait to see if anyone cares.

“Clerk’s Corruption” a song by David Esrati (you can now share just the song)

UPDATE

After I finished this, I had another thought, what if I ran that insane piece of legislatio [2]n through ChatGPT to make easy to understand and accessible. Here’s what came out. DO NOT USE THIS AS A LEGAL REFERENCE!

Simplified and Clarified Version of Ohio Revised Code Section 102.03

1. General Prohibition on Representation

  • No current or former public official or employee may represent or act on behalf of any person or entity in matters they personally participated in during their service, for 12 months after leaving office.

2. Specific Rules for Certain Roles:

  • Public Utilities Commission Officials:
    • For 24 months after leaving, former commissioners or attorney examiners cannot represent a public utility in front of state boards, commissions, or agencies.
  • Solid Waste Management Officials:
    • For 24 months after leaving, former officials involved in decisions or plans under Chapters 343 or 3734 of the Revised Code cannot represent owners or operators of related facilities in matters they participated in.
  • General Assembly Members or Employees:
    • For 12 months, former members or employees cannot represent any person in matters before the General Assembly or its committees.

3. Definitions and Exclusions

  • “Matter” includes cases, applications, or issues but excludes creating or enacting laws, ordinances, or resolutions.
  • “Representation” includes appearances, written or oral communications, or advocacy on behalf of a person.
  • Exemptions:
    • Former officials may work for the agency they served.
    • Ministerial functions (e.g., filing forms) are not prohibited.

4. Transition Between Government Roles

  • State agency employees can move to another state agency or political subdivision without restrictions unless:
    • They represent their new agency on audits or investigations they participated in at their previous agency within 12 months.

5. Specific Casino-Related Restrictions

  • Ohio Casino Control Commission members or employees:
    • Cannot represent or be employed by entities regulated by the commission for 2 years post-employment.
    • Cannot participate in casino gaming activities.

6. Confidentiality and Use of Influence

  • Public officials cannot:
    • Disclose confidential information gained during their service.
    • Use their authority to secure personal benefits or improper influence.

7. Gifts and Contributions

  • Officials cannot accept or solicit items of value if they create improper influence.
  • Campaign contributions are generally exempt unless tied to fraud or bribery.

8. Financial Interests

  • Officials must abstain from decisions affecting entities they or their family have significant financial interests in, unless properly disclosed.

9. Enforcement and Exceptions

  • Travel, meals, and honoraria related to duties are allowed if not improperly influential.
  • Officials may seek advisory opinions from the Ohio Ethics Commission.

Penalties for Violations

  • Administrative fines, criminal penalties, and referrals for investigation may apply for breaches of these rules.

What do you think? Easier to read and understand?

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Tim Hart

So 2 places rented for a year for $11,500 plus ?

1 that’s cheap as hell rents

Is that the smoking gun Dave ? That it ?

Julian Johnson

I don’t understand why the court building isn’t the highest rated employer for the job center…In earlier reporting, you wrote that a consulting service was paid to teach a judges kid a job..
Dude makes 60 k a year off tax payers to hold a camera…could of put that application up on the job center wall..
It’s the most corrupt institution in Dayton, prosecutors who rape, judges playing with defendants time…Skelton…a man that appears if you have the intention to play with his whacker, he will let your loved one go free… these ppl are the ones that’s judging and sentencing US.. and when I say us i do mean NEGROIDS!
Famous Amos, butt pirate, excuse the jargon, penitentiary talk…
Has prosecuted so many rape cases, he was given a OR bond, probation, they tried their best to let him go Scott free, van noy got a deal so smooth, I thought about meeting guys while incarcerated saying he wasn’t shit and sold them up the road..
You can read vileness in their own paperwork, but hey I allegedly committed a mass shooting and copped out to 8 yrs, whom am I to judge…
Great article Dave!
Keep up YOUR VOICE AND PLATFORM Brother!

jonathan b

Much clearer, David, but I’d still need a law degree to find the obvious.

Bubba Jones

Why does the Clerk’s office need a “director of community development”? Another made up position.

Who is the former journalist that works there?

And, you’re right about the Ohio Ethics Commission – TOTALLY USELESS!! An associate of mine tried to report some issues with a local official and was basically told by them that the official needed to report himself before they’d do anything. Plus, they make it very difficult to report anything. It all has to be done via snail-mail – no online reporting tools.

Tim Hart

You folks really don’t know that Trump is restoring the Republic….?

Been trying to tell ya but I’m just crazy it seems….

Fake News doesn’t tell you anything true !

This is going to be awesome just wait & see…. Lmfao !

Tim Hart

When the Truth comes out, do not ask me how I knew.

Ask yourself why you didn’t.

Buckle up Cupcakes !

Brian West

These appear to be lease extensions, at bargain rates. I know the Clayton location has been there for 20 years, and $792/mo is a great deal. I don’t see anything controversial or corrupt here, unless it’s that they are UNDER-paying for the space.

Melissa

As David reported, Mike Foley hired newly defeated former county commissioner Debbie Lieberman to work for him. Is this appropriate or yet another conflict involving the Clerk of Court and his new “employee”?

 
Here’s Dan Edwards hawking Mike Foley’s legal prowess at taxpayer’s expense, but never mind that the Clerk of Court cannot give legal advice.
https://www.facebook.com/MCOhClerkofCourts/videos/1700536793847631/

Indicted Clerk of Court Mike Foley’s criminal documents in case #2024 CR 1974 /1 are sealed on his own Clerk of Court PRO system. Visiting Judge Hein set trial for the week of June 16, 2025. Foley’s former judicial “partner in crime”, James Piergies, was also indicted in companion case #2024 CR 1974 /2 and taken off the bench. Fortunately, local media sought, and was granted, court permission to record court proceedings.

Voters seem to have a penchant for electing indicted / convicted felons of late, which sets a bad precedent for law abiding citizens, good governance, and democracy. Our next “Senator from Ohio” could be First Energy’s DeWine acolyte Jon Husted or the newest political gadfly Vivek Ramaswamy. Seasoned Republican Mike Turner just got the Trump pink slip and has a more open calendar now, so food for thought.

Donald Trump is the first president in American history to be impeached twice and the first to run again after impeachment. On Election Day, 49.8% of Americans voted for the Trump/Vance Republican ticket and 48.3% of Americans rejected Trump by voting for the Harris/Walz Democrat ticket – hardly the landslide Trump claims. Sadly, slightly more than 92 million eligible American voters failed to vote at all. More Americans should make better choices.

Convicted insurrectionist Tim Hart warns “Cupcakes” to buckle up, presumably for the criming to resume under adjudicated convicted felon Donald Trump hiding behind the shiny immunity shield SCOTUS gave the President.

biz

Well Lieberman did get arrested, DUI, many years ago & held on to her position so even if she did commit ANOTHER crime, she would walk away. There is Just Us and Justice, especially in Montgomery County

Tim Hart

The future will be known as BT before Trump & AT after Trump…..

I don’t think you guys understand how good it’s gonna get.

You can call me a criminal all you want Melissa but I was the one smart enough to go to DC and complain about a stolen election to make sure yours and my vote counts. You’re welcome. I guarantee the future will have a different take on the J6ers than you’re trying to spin out of your mainstream media hit pieces.

Tim Hart

Dave she was one vote. If she would have sat it out would it still of passed ?

Don’t seem like a hill to die on because there is WAY more being looted form the Taxpayers…. Keep Digging. I know you will find MORE !

Take care.

Melissa

I agree with you, Tim, that the future will have a different take under Trump. I disagree you went to DC on Jan6 to protect my vote and save the nation from a stolen election. It’s quite evident the 2020 election was not stolen. Cling to that.

It’s too bad you can’t discern fact from fiction where Trump is concerned. You were duped into doing something stupid, which is the opposite of smart. Apparently, you had a lot of company. I can’t make you be more educated if you don’t want to be.

Trump is a bullshit artist and it appears you are just one of his toadies. Good luck with that tack in life. Yes, let’s do watch how Trump performs for America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kJpttKLUtI

Tim Hart

Melissa you’re using a CNN article. CNN is the communist news network. They’re full of shit. It’s fake news ya figured that out yet. What are you slow? Or an idiot? And I’m not calling you an idiot I’m just using it in the same reference you did above, so Dave don’t protect little old Melissa if she can spew out hatred, she can take it fucking back. !

Melissa

If it looks, smells, and acts like patronage, it must be patronage, right? https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/county-officials-handed-taxpayer-funded-jobs-after-losing-election/SAF3FHWWZNFJLAWUFHJRYTUAUA/ Lieberman took a pay cut and Benson-Taylor got a pay raise in seemingly created jobs. What improvements, projects, and community development is Mike Foley, Montgomery County Clerk of Courts, legally responsible for such that he needs to hire Debbie Lieberman to perform that work? Foley should provide legal authority and records in support of his response. I hear Dayton Public Schools spends a million dollars every year in legal fees via outside corporate counsel. Just think how far that money could go to educate local children, employ local citizens, and assist local taxpayers. It’s laughable to see Montgomery County Republican Party Chairman and State House Rep. Phil Plummer being quoted in this Dayton Daily News (DDN) article today: “… Be fair to the citizens and stick with the established process…”. Were Plummer’s employees sticking with the established process and being fair to jailed citizens while he was Sheriff? Montgomery County sure has bled out a lot of taxpayer money to pay for numerous civil rights violations – millions, in fact. I think David made a video regarding the civil rights abuses of the Montgomery County Jail under the leadership of Phil “The Torturer” Plummer. Perhaps David could find and post that to refresh everyone’s recollection? Convicted felon and imprisoned former Ohio House Speaker Larry Householder, one of Phil Plummer’s Ohio Statehouse pals, is now asking Donald Trump for a pardon/clemency. Go figure. Householder orchestrated his FirstEnergy/House Bill 6 grift. House Rep. Phil Plummer signed HB 6 in support of the grift. Gov. Mike DeWine signed the grift into law. And now our newly appointed TRUMP APPROVED JUNIOR (LOL) Senator Jon Husted (of Kettering, Ohio) got promoted to continue grifting in Congress (until DJT sours on him and kills his election). Speaking of death, DeWine’s PUCO Chair Sam Randazzo and Ohio lobbyist Neil Clark killed themselves, with Clark wearing a DeWine campaign t-shirt in death. Former Ohio Republican Party Chair Matt Borger is in prison over it, as are other GOP lobbyists and insiders. Could Ohio’s current… Read more »