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Montgomery County Veterans Services need a lesson in service

On May 12th- my office manager took our homeless veteran down to Montgomery County Veterans Services to ask for financial assistance. This was after we had to supply yet another 90-day transaction history of bank account, which had been closed and written off for a $71 overdraft.

He was literally penniless, homeless (sleeping on my couch), without a phone, a car (and he’s a pizza delivery driver), and working 3-4 hours a day doing prep at a pizza shop for the last week after coming out of an extended hospitalization.

The letter promising assistance at a later date from the Montgomery County veterans Service Center [1]

The letter promising assistance at a later date from the Montgomery County Veterans Service Center

They were very helpful, paying off his old utility bills so we could get utilities turned on in his new apartment that I was going to have to front the rent and deposit and co-sign on, since St. Vincent DePaul had erroneously claimed he was ineligible for SSVF (Supportive Services for Veteran Families). They were generous- they decided to give him $485 in food assistance, which happens to be equivalent to the first month’s rent.

That was due on May 13th, the day I had to sign the lease.

On May 17th, they cut a letter and on May 19th I received it. Thinking I’d find a check for $485 in the envelope, I was overjoyed to find instead- a letter telling me there would be a check in “7 to 10 working days from the date of this correspondence.”

Really?

Let’s see, we pay 5 commissioners almost $10K a year to oversee an organization of 9 people supposedly there to assist vets, all making more than the amount of cash assistance a week- and we can’t cut a check immediately for $485 and hand it to him? And note, when they were writing the check, I was setting up a new bank account at Wright Patt Credit Union for him with his first big 2 week paycheck- $135, of which we were able to deposit a whopping $80 because he had to pay some co-workers back money he had borrowed while in the hospital.

The saddest thing- after this whopping grant, he’s only eligible to come back one more time this year to ask for help. They have a limit of 2 requests per year. They turned down requests for rent, deposit, cell phone allowance, car. They turned down paying the water bill he stuck his former landlord with because the landlord had it in his name (I’m not feeling so bad about that one).

But- the question is- for this investment in manpower and management, why can’t we have a veterans’ assistance program that can have the authority to cut a check for at least $2,500 on the spot? Why did we have to keep supplying additional records (our packet was literally an inch thick), to even get in the door? Why did no one from MCVS reach out to us to help out with processing him for other benefits after my scathing blog post on Sunday [2]? The VA Chief, Glenn Costie was in touch with me Sunday afternoon- and by Wednesday, my arguments for the Veteran’s status had been escalated to Atlanta and DC and validated- he is qualified for SSVF.

I was just interrupted from writing this by a call from Herb Davis, director of MCVS. We, Jen and I, just had a 30-minute discussion about our experience. We’ve been invited to speak to the entire board. We questioned how you can call a check as much as 20 days out “emergency food assistance.” We asked why when paying off the old utility bills, was no offer made for future bills, nor was he offered help in applying for PIP (a program for paying utilities for extremely low-income residents). No one offered to begin his application for Veterans’ Benefits either.

Mr. Davis admitted and accepted his office’s failings. He still relies on “processes and procedures” as reasons for their lackluster performance. Sending our Veteran out to get PIP on his own, without a phone- is kind of like sending someone out to fish, without a pole, hook or bait.

Jen’s final question/statement was “Are you there to give a man a fish, or to teach a man to fish.”

I think right now- the answer is, we’re here to give you a piece of paper for the rights to a fish, at a later date.

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Carl

The MC Common Pleas Court pays jurors in cash through an ATM. The money is from the same source (Auditor/County Budget). Why can’t Veteran Service do the same??

Bubba Jones

David – sometimes you are the world’s biggest asshole. Other times you’re a pretty good guy. Doing what you’re doing for this vet puts you in the “pretty good guy” category – at least for today! :) Having known you since my hair was dark and your hair was still hair I know that you’ve tried to help a number of people over the years and, overall, you’re a pretty decent guy. Unfortunately the asshole part comes out when it shouldn’t. You’re often your own worst enemy as you demonstrated at the church a couple of weeks ago. When you go speak to this board, try to stay in the “pretty good guy” category so you don’t, once again, become your own worst enemy. I hope you heed this advice -> ** Don’t go in there trying to speak in your “command voice” that you think makes you a leader. It doesn’t. It makes you sound like a pushy, know it all, asshole. Be conversational instead. ** Don’t go in there making accusations. Don’t point out their ineptness directly. That will only put them on the defensive and you’ll end up sabotaging the opportunity that you are being given to help a LOT of vets in the area. Be nice!! **Don’t TELL them how to fix things. Don’t say “You need to do _____.” Instead make suggestions by ASKING things like “would it be possible to ______ instead of ______? I think this would make sense because _______.” Suggesting instead of telling will do wonders for your cause! ** DO ask them to implement some changes in “steps” instead of all at once. You can layout a long term plan of changes, but ask them to implement them a couple at a time. People don’t like change and are especially resistant to changes directed by outsiders. Keep that in mind when trying to change things. ** DO ask to be invited back to their next meetings so you can DISCUSS with them how the suggestions/changes from the previous meeting were implemented. This will also give you an opportunity to update… Read more »