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I really feel terrible about it too.

No oversight on $46 Million? And, the FBI and the county are going after Raleigh Trammell for his little scrape?  Sounds like JFS director Christy Novell and County Administrator Deborah Feldman should be under investigation and on leave without pay until they understand that this is a major violation of the public trust and their duty.

Montgomery County failed to follow its own rules requiring that staff visit the sites of organizations that received $46 million in public money to provide social services last year, County Administrator Deborah Feldman said Tuesday, March 23.

She said very few of the 236 contracts managed by the county Department of Job and Family Services were fully monitored last year, and officials believe the problem also occurred in 2008.

“I really feel terrible about it,” said Christy Norvell, director of JFS.

via County failed to monitor groups getting millions in public money [1].

If anyone wonders where anti-government sentiment comes from, it’s when public officials make lame-ass apologies, instead of admitting fault. Of course, they have nothing on the line. No profit and loss statement to be reviewed by the banker, no responsibility to investors to make good on the money entrusted to them, and no risk of losing their job, pension or freedom apparently.

I’m sorry- but, if you fail to handle public money responsibly, you don’t deserve a paycheck or a pension, and may even belong in jail. It’s crooks like you that destroy our system more than the punks who broke into my office. Our political system only works when we can trust that the people in it are doing their job.

Feeling “terrible” about it doesn’t cut the mustard.

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SheliaO

Ah yes – the JFS.  In my experiences with them, they resent having to do their job in any capacity so this really doesn’t surprise me.  However I agree that it should be looked into and someone should be held responsible.  Oh, there’s that R word again, what was I thinking?

Teri Lussier

>I’m sorry- but, if you fail to handle public money responsibly, you don’t deserve a paycheck or a pension, and may even belong in jail. It’s crooks like you that destroy our system more than the punks who broke into my office.
 
May even belong in jail? This is thievery, people do go to jail for misuse of other people’s money, and feeling terrible about it is the very minimum of what she should feel.
 
>If anyone wonders where anti-government sentiment comes from, it’s when public officials make lame-ass apologies, instead of admitting fault. Of course, they have nothing on the line. No profit and loss statement to be reviewed by the banker, no responsibility to investors to make good on the money entrusted to them, and no risk of losing their job, pension or freedom apparently.
 
Thank you. Privatization doesn’t prevent crooks from being crooks-nothing prevents that- but it gives investors, clients, and customers strong incentive to pay attention to what is happening to their money, and some recourse when crooks show themselves for what they really are.

Jesse

David,
 

If anyone wonders where anti-government sentiment comes from, it’s when public officials make lame-ass apologies, instead of admitting fault. Of course, they have nothing on the line. No profit and loss statement to be reviewed by the banker, no responsibility to investors to make good on the money entrusted to them, and no risk of losing their job, pension or freedom apparently.

Is the best thing I have seen you write to date.  I have nothing but applause for you from “Of course” through the end of the statement.  Well done!

Drexel Dave Sparks

And we have no idea of where to come up with 9 million for Leitzell’s RTA idea?

Gene

Tax people for the RTA. Lord knows we all work to support the liberal agenda.

Property tax: $2,556.00
State Income tax: A$5,778
Federal Income Tax: $23,890
RTA Tax: $123.00
Park and Rec Tax: $276.00
Sewer Tax: $244.00
Sales Tax: $13,987
A tax on my Taxes paid: $1,254
Working my ass off to support the liberal agenda: priceless

Coming up with real ideas to help Dayton: next to impossible, especially if we keep taxing people and businesses.

Gene

We NEED the RTA. People love seeing tax money pissed on while “Johnnie” rides alone in the world’s biggest limo.

Have you seen the number of people riding the RTA these days? Unreal…. Why not get like 75 cars and just drive people door to door for free. One and two and three people on huge bus makes zero “cents.”

Screw it – just buy every RTA user a used car. Heck, 438 cars * $5000.00 used car allowance = 2.19 Million Bones. That is cheaper than any huge RTA system of non-used buses.

Drexel Dave Sparks

Cars for all aren’t feasible at $5 a gallon (we shall a huge economic downturn at $4 a gallon), which changes the economic equation completely. We need to be prepped for that.

Greg Hunter

Everything is TIED to oil, but most people I know think the world is not finite.  Planning for problems is the definition of being human.
 
Drexel – Human
Gene – Animal
:)

David Lauri

So how many Esrati.com readers have contacted Montgomery County Commissioners about Feldman and Novell?  For the Commissioners’ phone numbers and e-mail addresses, go to: http://www.mcohio.org/government/bcc/index.html
 
If you really think Feldman and Novell should be held accountable, you’ve got to hold their bosses accountable.

Gene

A bus with two people on it is a huge gas guzzler. Let’s stop thinking transportation and start thinking why people want to be transported and then give them reasons not to be transported. I never said oil is not finite, but what I am saying is too many buses with too few people is a waste of money. Try to bring jobs to neighborhoods so people don’t have to travel as often. But then again those on the bus don’t work. What are your solutions Greg?  Tax everyone if the drive?

Seems to me Greg just cries and has no solutions….

Greg Hunter

Plenty of solutions, but you always say that “people want to live in the suburbs”.  The solution to encourage change is a carbon tax pure and simple.  Higher carbon tax equals less money for road building, which forces density while forcing public transportation use to go up and costs to go down.  Less cars, less maintenance, less insurance, more community and more love.  All Win!

Gene . . .

Another tax…. really? Can you guys think “outside the tax?”

Hunter, dear, we have more people in this county than we did 40 years ago. Dayton is for 250k, so where do we put the other 300k in this county?

Get people to stop driving. Ask yourself why they drive? People who live in Dayton drive all over the place. They certainly can not be working in Dayton, there are not jobs here. So they drive elsewhere to work. So we need jobs in the city, not taxes.

It makes little difference where they live. And, yes, people want to live in the suburbs, what is wrong with that? They are safe and clean and have good schools. Urban areas can not achieve this…

We could have a lot more money if we did not need to police those who live in the city. Do you think Esrati’s criminals were from…. Beavercreek or Oakwood or Centerville? I am guessing they were from Dayton. Huge reach on my part.

Greg Hunter

what is wrong with that

Gene here is the simple answer contained in this thread….
 
Roger, when the earth had two billion souls, how many other great apes do you think existed? How many elephants or tigers or bison? What percentage of the world was still covered by forest when the earth had two billion souls?
And how many or how much of this was still there when the earth had 4 billion souls. As our numbers increase the numbers of all other animals, except things like mice, mosquitoes and such, must decrease. And it continues. We are competing with all other species for food and territory, and we are winning… big time! And we are destroying the animals, the forest, the rivers, and the lakes just to maintain the status quo. Even if we stopped our population growth today the destruction would continue… it must to feed and house our population that is already deep into overshoot. That is only one of the reasons that I am a doomer.
Footnote: The human population of the earth increases by approximately 200,000 each day! The combined population of all other great apes on earth is slightly less than 200,000. That’s right, the human population grows each day by more than the combined population of all other great apes on earth. And the population of one great ape, Homo sapiens, keeps growing each day while the population of all other great apes declines a little each day. That is one of the other reasons I am a doomer.
Ron P.

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[new] HARM on March 25, 2010 – 2:44pm

We are competing with all other species for food and territory, and we are winning… big time!
We’re winning??? Alright!!! Go team! U-S-A! U-S-A!, er…. HOMO SAPIENS! HOMO SAPIENS! HOMO SAPIENS!
Wow, so like, what’s our prize? Do we all get a Singularity-style techo-utopia teeming with buxom babes, unlimited HD cable, and frosty cool beer on tap?

Drexel Dave Sparks

There were always certainly plenty of working people on the Dayton Mall Express bus I frequented a couple of summers ago for some part-time work around the mall. To say that nobody works rides the RTA is preposterous. During the gas price “crisis” of a couple of summers ago, the RTA was a lot cheaper than my car at the time (a van), and the choice was easy – $1.50 for bus then bike to work, or $10 round trip in my van, which was a gas hog.
Yes, we need walk-to-work tax credits. And yes, RTA doesn’t need to go to every nook and cranny of the county. And less traveled routes need to be run by those smaller buses, or paired down only to major riding times (i.e. a bus that is empty at 10 a.m. might have been totally packed during the morning run taking people to work, so you reduce the number of runs to only those times during the day when the bus is packed).
I think RTA could be a lot more efficient, and be free for everyone. Free bus service is a great reason not to have a car at all. If you do need a car, you can just rent one with all of the money you’ve saved from not having one. And if you do need a car, you can just rent one, or take the car that you keep in the garage that is paid off that you only need to use sparingly.

jstults

techo-utopia teeming with buxom babes, unlimited HD cable, and frosty cool beer on tap

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