update 2 July 2:30 pm – edits in italics and strikethroughs.
The headline is wrong.
Mea culpa- The building that burned was 101 Bainbridge, not 15 McDonough.
The property is owned by the City of Dayton- and is adjacent to Garden Station- which was handed over to Weyland Ventures for nothing.
The building that got the tax credits, is still standing, and yes, it was given to Weyland Ventures- and they don’t seem to have to pay taxes- and still get tax dollars for historic tax credits.
June 20, 2018, the headline reads “Developer receives tax credits for $18M rehab project, Dayton tech company to expand.” Next thing you know, there’s a massive fire in part of the building.
I was heading downtown to shoot some drone footage of the fountains at sunset when I saw the smoke and shot this footage.
Of course, this “smokin hot” real estate is part next to of the insane giveaway by the City of Dayton of your tax dollars. First they bought the old Supply One HQ on Wayne Avenue for $450K, then gave it away to Weyland Ventures out of Kentucky. They threw in the community built “Garden Station” for free. [1] 101 Bainbridge- Its parcel ID is R72 00604 0003
The city “sold” the property that burned last night on 24 March of 2016 to “OREGON INNOVATION DISTRICT LLC” which has an address in Louisville. There is no sale price. The interesting thing about the property tax records- is that Oregon Innovation District doesn’t seem to pay property taxes. PARCEL ID: R72 00611 0061
The rest of us do have to pay taxes.
Here’s the info on the tax giveaway from the above mentioned Dayton Business Journal article:
A robotics and technology company will have new office space in downtown Dayton thanks to a historic tax credit approved Wednesday.
Gosiger Industries, currently located at 108 McDonough St., is planning to expand into the Dayton Motor Car Building after its development partner received $1.8 million from the Ohio Historic Preservation Tax Credit Program. The $18.2 million project would allow the company to occupy new office space in the six-story, 80,000 square-foot building at 15 McDonough St.
Louisville-based real estate development firm Weyland Ventures will rehabilitate and restore the iconic building from its heyday of Dayton’s auto manufacturing era. The concrete industrial building features expansive windows and open floor plates, and has long been underutilized. The building sits close to East Third Street, on the edge of the Oregon District, and is also part of the Dayton Motor Car Company Historic District.
The Dayton Business Journal previously reported Weyland also oversaw the renovation of the Wheelhouse building at 210 Wayne Ave.
According to the tax credit application filed by Weyland, Gosinger “has agreed to lease all of the space in the rehabilitated building to fulfill their space needs now and in the future.” The company intends to occupy part of the building immediately, and will sublease the remaining space. Weyland plans to begin the project by the end of the year, and is looking to complete it by December 2019.
While a ton of buildings burn in Dayton, it’s interesting that this is the one where before the fire is out, the Dayton Day-Old News is reporting “2 Juveniles” were caught and are being charged with arson.
There are arsons all over this city, and no one gets caught that quick.
Not only that, only if you are a friend of the Mayor, will the burned out building be torn down pronto asap. More on that story coming up soon- with video.
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- The timbers
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- The fire burned hot
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- What’s left after the fire
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- The garage on the left- the factory on the right
This low building connected to the tower was the original Dayton Motorcar Company, and had some really incredible timber construction based on the remains this morning. It also, was the historic part. I’m sure that before the tax credits were awarded, the insurance value was pennies, but, the moment the tax credits came through, the insurance value went up.
Something smells worse than the thick black smoke that could be seen for miles.
One YouTube commentor- Ronn Jane, said they worked there for 14 years in the last incarnation “The business was Called Dayton Warehouse Inc. Which closed in 1993. The Tall concrete building was full, all 5 floors full of cigarettes by the case. The old building in front on fire was office and storage of liquid 50 gallon barrels of dye and on third floor was powder dyes, Maytag washers and dryers, and BMW motor cycle’s. That place survived the great flood but is no match for fire..”
Revisions in italics and strikethroughs- Publishing since 2005, esrati.com is a solo operation, done in addition to running a business, and caring for my mother. I do the best I can. This post had some factual errors in it- I’m sorry. I’ve done the best I can to fix this mess, and move forward. The video is still spectacular- and the reality is, the City of Dayton shouldn’t be in the real estate business.
note- the building had burned before https://www.mydaytondailynews.com/business/vacant-dayton-industrial-site-set-for-reuse-master-plan/HcGl8vq4H6p0Ukrp5SVK3K/ [7]
The city also owns 101 Bainbridge after purchasing it for less than $100,000 in November 2013. But the city has prepared legislation authorizing the building’s transfer to Gosiger at some point, said Amy Walbridge of the city’s Office of Economic Development. The transfer would be a similar transaction as 15 McDonough St.
Don’t let this Stinky thing get away David, “You sure don’t need a weather man to know which way the wind blows?”
You have the wrong building. Incorrect and extremely irresponsible. You should correct this immediately.
Wrong building. Bad post.
When do you plan to correct this post since you have the wrong building and owners.?
you are a mindless idiot that should be sewed for slander.
your Parcel ID is the wrong building: check your facts. and read this credible article:https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/breaking-news/downtown-dayton-developer-lands-state-funds-for-18m-project/wC9WQr4Cfcg0B5lERBJy6K/
I screwed up. Fixing.
http://www.mcrealestate.org/Datalets/Datalet.aspx?sIndex=4&idx=1
this is the information on who owns 101 bainbridge if you need help with the research.
I think you should be sewed, too… maybe into a big quilt.
You didn’t fix the fact that you implied/accused the recipients of the state tax credits of arson. You are completely irresponsible and should be sued for slander. How about an apology to the people you wrongly accused. You should be ashamed.
Rockdog- the people who are getting this building are the same people who got the tax credits- and have been given carte blanche at taxpayers expense.
This whole deal is one of poor people financing projects of the wealthy.
The fire cost the tax payers a pretty penny too.
Maybe when Weyland actually pays for properties- and pays property taxes- I’ll have a little more sympathy.
As to Gosinger, they seem to be getting some sweetheart deals as well.
We’ll wait to see if the arsonists defense is we were paid to do this or not…
In the meantime- how are you connected to the aggrieved parties?
So for the record, you stand by your accusation of arson? If you don’t retract it I hope they sue you. You have a right to your opinion about matters of city policy and actions. Accusation of arson goes way beyond reasonable, lacks credibility, very stupid. Of course you think I must be connected somehow because I find your accusation outrageous, irresponsible, and baseless.
Rockdog- they caught the arsonists. Let’s wait and see.
As to accusations- I’ve said I had the wrong building- the insurance isn’t the issue-
You seem to be overly worried about someones reputation.
The city shouldn’t be spending tax dollars buying buildings and then giving them away.
You accused people of arson when you had the wrong building and facts. You implied recipients of the tax credits were behind it. That is a serious yet baseless allegation. It’s irresponsible and you don’t seem to understand this. You tried to tie the building, the tax credits with the fire and arson, BUT YOU HAD THE WRONG BUILDING!!!! But for you that’s just an “oh well”, I’m really busy with my small business and caring for a parent to worry with facts. You have a right to your opinion about the manner in which the City of Dayton conducts economic development and incentives. But it is quite another thing to accuse law abiding people who receive them of arson. That’s where you went wrong and you don’t seem to get it.
I find it curious that the title still seems to suggest that tax credits and a building burning are related. Yes, perhaps they are both true, but aligning the title of this silly article (that somehow confused McDonough and Bainbridge streets) to those points seems reckless. This fire was a newsworthy event that legitimate news agencies actually covered. The dribble in this article was misconceived, inaccurate, and laughable. Perhaps when thinking about a journalistic blog post again you should also spend some time researching a map. I will point the way: https://www.wikihow.com/Read-a-Map
Yep, Esrati screwed up. Admitted it, then retracted/corrected. End of story.
It’s a mistake. It happens, whether it’s a one-man blog or the New York Times.
Move along, folks. Nothing to see here.
@david c – except he didn’t retract or apologize really. the headline is still misleading (which he acknowledges so why not change it and the link to the story) and when the new york times makes a mistake or a retraction, they don’t just strike it through.
“Something smells worse than the thick black smoke that could be seen for miles.” That’s what you said and didn’t strike from your article. What really smells is your story and false accusation. It’s more than just a screw up…it’s slander.
Rockdogg needs to lighten up. What do you want? The man has admitted that he made a mistake. Let the people he supposedly slandered take him to court if that is what they think they need to do. You seem to be awfully concerned to be someone who doesn’t have a dog in this fight. Or do you? The next time Mr. Esrati screws up we’ll just haul him down to Third and Main and chop his head off in Courthouse Square. Will that satisfy you? You need professional help.
Yes, take it easy, Rockdogg. It will all be OK and I’ll personally make sure David gets sewed– I’ve got a needle and some thread I use for hockey gear which is pretty strong and should work just fine. (For those of you coming late to this Rockdogg goes off about inaccuracies and then amusingly misspells “sued” as “sewed” which has been corrected, but I think he was right the first time and David should, in fact, be sewed.) Sew, does anyone have a thimble?
The basic elements of a claim of slander include;
1) a defamatory statement;
2) published to third parties; and
3) which the speaker or publisher knew or should have known was false.
#3 above did not happen, therefore slander did not occur.
Furthermore, the words mea culpa kinda cover the apology and taking responsibility part.
Here’s an articles devoted to the many, many grossly embarrassing errors and omissions committed by The New York Times over the years:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/13/insider/the-times-regrets-the-error-readers-dont.html
Somehow, they’re still in business.
Unlike Rockdogg, I know that things published just don’t go away.
If I changed the headline- the URL would still be the same. If I changed the URL- links would break- and I’d be accused of hiding it.
I do things in the open.
I fixed what I felt needed to be fixed.
The more he protests- the more I want to crawl into this story and dig out why the hell the city is handing out buildings to people from out of town- still.
Anyone remember “Student Suites” and the $2M they took for the Dayton Daily News hole in the ground on Ludlow? Or did y’all forget about that?
You didn’t correct all that needed correcting otherwise this would be over. You’re just Iike Donald Trump. Say something outrageous, factless, slanderous, untrue and then refuse to be accountable for what you say. Carry on Donald.
Hi Veritable,
Fact check I never used the word “sewed” in any of my posts. Just more fake news. I know your sorry so no need to retract since that seems to be standard fare here…
Rockdogg, (audible sigh… tsk tsk. The lady doth protest too much. And when we smugly declare that “the lady doth protest too much,” we almost always mean that the lady objects so much as to lose credibility (as stated in enotes.com). Such is the case here. Here is the word you used in your original post (I cut it to my clipboard and pasted it here and saved it for days just in case it was needed as evidence, so here it is:) “sewed”. So there. Irrefutable proof. I am now sticking my tongue out at you and saying nayh nayh nayh nayh boo boo. You have been officially and interweb legally disproven! Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, lady who doth proteth too much! HA!
Veritable, That was a post by “Bob M”. But I do agree with him that this story is very poorly “sewn” together. And perhaps you might do a better job stitching your facts together.
I’m sure you’ll be glad to know that this will be my last post. Point 1. I have no problem with citizens questioning their government and I respect their right to express their views. It is good for democracy. Point 2. Everyone makes mistakes. In this case mistakenly identifying the building which caught fire was an honest mistake and was corrected. Point 3. Where the writer went wrong was implying that a local business and a developer were behind the arson. This is a baseless accusation and does not belong in this story. The writer has issues with the City of Dayton’s economic development incentives. While others might view it a little differently, I respect his right to express his views. But accusing local businessmen and an out of town developer of arson crosses the line of reasonable public discourse. I think this was very careless on his part. Last point. I acknowledge the writers’ meo culpa in that he admitted that he identified the wrong building, but I think he didn’t go far enough to retract this serious but baseless accusation. That’s a wrap. Happy 4th.
I think it’s now pretty obvious what’s happening here…..Rockdogg finds Esrati extremely attractive. He can’t express his lust for Dave E. openly, and perhaps can’t even admit it to himself, but it’s there.
His posts drip with sexual tension, even his username Rockdogg is a barely disguised reference to his engorged and inflamed loins.
It took real flames (albeit at the wrong address) to ignite the unrequited passion that wells up within Rockdogg
Glad “Rockdogg” has given us his final words.
However, re-reading the edit- I see nothing that suggests that the fire was set by local businessmen.
What I do see is a question of when was the last time we caught someone for arson?
Especially considering we have a city where bodies in burned out houses aren’t found for months.
Source: Body found months after Dayton fire, family wants answers
Again, I’ve said I got the wrong building. I’ve clarified who owns the buildings, transfer questions, taxes.
Dave-
You need to pull a “Trump Trick” out of the bag and find something else to write about very quickly. It’s called changing the narrative.
This low building connected to the tower was the original Dayton Motorcar Company, and had some really incredible timber construction based on the remains this morning. It also, was the historic part. I’m sure that before the tax credits were awarded, the insurance value was pennies, but, the moment the tax credits came through, the insurance value went up.
Something smells worse than the thick black smoke that could be seen for miles.
@Rockdogg- refresh your browser- because there has been a strikethrough on that line since I admitted my error.