Comments on: What will the Democratic party think of next? It’s not as good as the Dayton Process.

By: Doris Haddock- Hero for Campaign Finance reform, silenced at 100

Doris Haddock- Hero for Campaign Finance reform, silenced at 100 — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:30:52 +0000

[...] while back, I proposed the “Dayton Process“- it’s not dead, and I’m still looking for candidates who wish to run in next [...]

By: On running for office in Dayton

On running for office in Dayton — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 01:29:14 +0000

[...] And if you want to know how I believe we should change the process- see this post: The Dayton Process [...]

By: David Esrati

David Esrati — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:37:22 +0000

@Dan (Klco) I wouldn't call the treatment you got on this site a flogging or slandering. I actually defended you as probably not the author. As to getting your side- these forums have always been open- and you are perfectly capable of defending yourself- or responding (which was more than what was possible on the nogaryno site you set up).

Now that the precincts have been redrawn- there may be hope for a retaking of the democratic party- time will tell. Welcome to the open side of discussing things political in Dayton.

By: Dan

Dan — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:31:02 +0000

David is correct, the Dan in the comment is one in the same as the person who registered the nogaryno.com website. I would however note, that I did not author or approve of a single word written on the website. I am simply a technical guy who volunteered to help out the MCDP and was dumb enough to put in his own name as the technical contact. To be completely honest, at the time I registered the domain, I had never heard of Gary Leitzel or his website. I hope this clears the air somewhat.

I haven’t really appreciated the way my name has been used as a scapegoat over the last couple months, but given the nature of politics I can hardly say I am surprised. What upsets me the most is that you, David Esrati, chose to publicly flog and slander me without even bothering to contact me to get my side of the story.

By: Considered: The White City « For the Love of Dayton

Considered: The White City « For the Love of Dayton — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:24:44 +0000

[...] I have my own ideas and Esrati has a few (and a really good one in the Dayton Process). I’ll share more later but until then, keep fighting the good [...]

By: The Dayton Process- is anyone else doing this?

The Dayton Process- is anyone else doing this? — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:56:38 +0000

[...] local power broker called me the other day to tell me he liked my “Dayton Process” idea a lot. Then he asked “is anyone else doing [...]

By: Redrawing the local lines, new precincts and voting locations for Montgomery County

Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:34:02 +0000

[...] thoughts? This is why I’m starting the Dayton Process. Hope you understand this better [...]

By: Who Does DDN’s Gottlieb want Leitzell to Ignore? « For the Love of Dayton

Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:17:18 +0000

[...] assets for the new mayor to exploit. Maybe he’s talking about all those bloggers with their pesky ideas about reform. I’m not sure who all the people are, but I know one of them is this [...]

By: Will Brooks

Will Brooks — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:15:47 +0000

Forgot the link.
http://esrati.com/?p=3667#comments

By: Will Brooks

Will Brooks — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:13:34 +0000

I posted this on a day where all my pre-election frustrations came to a head and I let go of them as I typed my rant. Guess this is what effect smear sites and negative campaigning can have on John Q. Voter. Pay attention Dan, I am sure this wasn’t your intent.

That mailing is just slanderous. In light of this mailing, I enjoyed seeing the distress on McLin’s pathetic mug tonight on the news. She seemed like she was VERY upset and I think it’s hilarious that she had to run and hide for almost 24 hours before going public. I bet she tied one on last night that exceeded my Leitzell election party celebration scotchs mega fold. I also loved the video where she gave her acceptance speech. Wait till all the results are in next time! You made a perfect ass of yourself, exposing just how smug you and your ilk really are. Good riddance ex-mayor (redacted)!
I only pray that someone flushes the toilet over at the democratic party to clear out all the turds floating around the bowl over there. Daniel Klco, Mark Owens being the chief turds in my book. Oh, and Democrapic party….THANKS FOR THE NAME RECOGNITION, WE COULD NOT HAVE WON WITHOUT YOU!! morons.
Sorry if I am a little caustic on this issue..lol

By: Hall

Hall — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:11:22 +0000

Gary’s blog pointed to different postings that this “Dan” guy has made and it’s safe to say, he’s not a quiet, un-opinionated person ! He may have some input with the content there.

By: Will Brooks

Will Brooks — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:19:44 +0000

@David. He may not be responsible for the content but IMO he was in agreement with the sites intent as a smear site from the domain name nogaryno.com. Personally, I would not have registered a site titled norhineno.com simply because I believe in relevant issues and not character assassination. As much as I disagree with Mayor McLin I would have to anticipate that a site called norhineno.com would have no good thing to say about her. With that said, I hold nothing against him and would welcome involvement from anyone interested in making Dayton a better place instead of promoting their political party. Not sure if he fits the bill or not but I am willing to assume the best of him until I know otherwise.

By: David Esrati

David Esrati — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:00:15 +0000

@Hall- it is what it is. And just because his name shows up on the site registration- doesn’t mean he’s responsible for what went on the site.

By: Hall

Hall — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:00:37 +0000

Same name ? I presume you mean e-mail address ? We (users) can’t see the e-mail address used, only the “name”. Don’t tell us he used the same !

By: David Esrati

David Esrati — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:48:39 +0000

@Ambrose

There is no way to verify the owner of the e-mail address- but the name submitted is the very same one that can be found here: http://daytonmayor.blogspot.com/2009/10/get-off-of-my-cloud.html

By: Ambrose

Ambrose — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:25:01 +0000

@ David Esrati
I’m going to going to go out on a limb here and guess that the Dan you’re referring to isn’t the same Dan that just posted above. Call me crazy, but I’m going to wager that there might be more than one Dan in the world with internet access and capable of posting. Next time, maybe ask for social security numbers (sarcasm, don’t really do it). It may help in your conspiracy theory to identify all political connections for Dayton and Montgomery County employees. Maybe this Dan was Miami Dolphins great and Nutrisystem spokesperson Dan Marino? I hear he lost 22 lbs. and more importantly he’s been able to keep it off too. Or I bet it was Hawaii Democratic Senator Dan Inouye? As the 3rd oldest US senator I’m sure he reads your blog to start his morning off everyday and btw he’s a war hero as well. Wow, a Hall of Fame QB or maybe a long serving American Senator to possibly count as one of you readers. Way to go!

By: jstults

jstults — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:16:15 +0000

Isn’t the power of the internet that it is decentralized and accessible (low barriers to entry). Why is there a need for a centralized “screening” site and rules for fundraising? That seems like it is using modern tools to prop up old style party politics. The market and the voters already provide the rules: grassroots and cheap sites on the internet work. Maybe I’m missing something?
@Ryan: I’ll second that, more Independents are what we need.
Independent candidates require you to engage your brain to evaluate them, you can’t be lazy and let a party (or a primary process) evaluate them for you.

By: ThomasI

ThomasI — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:49:13 +0000

I will totally run for office. Drop me a line.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:30:35 +0000

The better question is….What if Gary turns out to be a great mayor. Why then would any party (Republican or Democrat) want to remove or unseat him? We all know that both parties are more interested in the politics rather than the city that their political games affect. I applaud Gary for running as an Independent.

By: David Esrati

David Esrati — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:22:27 +0000

@Dan

There were a group of us who believed we could take over the MCDP at one time- however, there are 535 precincts- and although a lot of them are empty- it’s a lot of seats to fill.

I’m kind of surprised to see you posting here- since your name was attached to the registration of the No Gary No smear site. Also- the only thing I could find on the MCDP site that mentions the Precinct Captains is their Constitution: http://www.montgomerydems.org/about/constitution.asp

I don’t see any active recruitment for captains- even though they are very short on them. Am I missing something?