Comments on: Let’s send the Dayton sound global: marketing we can afford.

By: Joe

Joe — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:26:14 +0000

I wish Dayton could support another record store, specifically vinyl sales. Go to Columbus and see the all kinds of record stores in odd little shops. Those seem to stay in business, albeit in a larger city with a younger crowd. I think Dayton could support another small record shop. Omega Music has been up on Main forever. Maybe one on Wayne, or Belmont maybe?

By: Bruce Kettelle

Bruce Kettelle — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:49:47 +0000

Just for the record any discussion about Dayton music history should at least mention the acts that garnered substantial nationl record sales besides the alternative acts mentioned above (which I personally prefer).
Country, bluegrass and root rock
Albums from such local artists as Dixie Peach, Dry Branch Fire Squad, Hot Mud Family, and Sharon Lane
Funk
Albums from such local artists as Dayton, The Ohio Players, Slave, and Zapp
Rock
Albums from such local artists as Brainiac, Captain of Industry, Hawthorne Heights, and Shrug

By: Jeff

Jeff — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:56:13 +0000

The music scene has been Daytons strong suite for quite some time. Which is interesting as it seemed to be rather overlooked by this creative class hoo-hah and the attempt to recast the Oregon as an arts district rather than a music district.

Ironically my first introduction to Dayton was via its’ music scene. But not in Dayton and not the music being discussed. When I was living in the Bay Area a public radio station in San Mateo that played a lot of bluegrass did an entire Sunday afternoons worth of programming on the history of the Dayton area bluegrass and trad scene; bands that started in the area and bands that had a fan base here. An example of how outsiders might be more aware of the musical heritage of Dayton than the locals. Also maybe because there was a good bluegrass/trad scene going on in the Bay Area and Northern California, so they were interested in places where this music became popular, like Dayton and the Miami Valley.

Branching out from strict bluegrass there was also the Hot Mud Family, which received airplay in Northern California on shows that featured trad/folk stuff (though they were more from the 1970s), and in modern times there is Larry Cordle, who is a songwriter as well as a player (maybe more on the country side) and the Dry Branch Fire Squad, who I think have relocated out of state. Anne & Phil Case , based in Germantown, have a national reputation as good interpreters of old-time music (and were included in one of those Paste magazine compilations).

So, this is, and has been, a great town for live music of various types. Just not much recognized by the local cultural poobahs except for maybe the Cityfolk folks.

By: Joe

Joe — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:31:26 +0000

A shameless plug:

Guided By Voices new DVD “The Devil Went Home and Puked” release party is at South Park Tavern tonight. Come see Motorhead Mountain, an excellent cover band assembled from Dayton musicians! Also, rare footage of GBV shows circa 94-96! Come check it out!

By: David Esrati

David Esrati — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:02:52 +0000

@GladGirl- "DDC" in this case was shorthand for "Dayton Development Coalition"- your evil abbreviation twin.

And- who knows who'll play with whom- but I've heard rumor that Robert Pollard may be at SPT tonight at the GBV tribute show.

By: GladGirl

GladGirl — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:33:08 +0000

I need a little clarity on this: “We’ll even let the DDC talk about our abundant water supply at the breaks if they pony up some cash.” I missed something there. What would we, DDC, know about abundant water supplies? As far as cash goes, we would have to vote on that. We’re pretty much committed to all our cash going to bands. What small % we keep from the door of each show goes to operating expenses. We have other resources to offer that are just as valuable as cash, that is how we have stayed open this long. 2 years is like 10 in Dayton years. Thanks for thinking of the DDC. We have put a lot of love, sweat, tears, sleepless nights and our own cash into it. In a way, you could say we have put our love, sweat, tears, sleepless nights and own cash into Dayton for that matter.
As far as the Deal’s and Robert, best to leave that negotiation up to the honorable Mr. Donald Thrasher. He’s the only one in town that they care to talk to these days. I’m not sure even Don could pull that off, but you never know. Time heals.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:16:37 +0000

The late, lamented WOXY used to work local music into their playlist. Mostly Cincy bands but also GBV. I think they used to have a local music show, too; “Local Licks”(?)

By: R0b Degenhart

R0b Degenhart — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:44:41 +0000

Sign me up! I’ll throw a few hundy in the pot to get something like this started. I love local radio, WBZI, UD, WSU Radio and WYSO. Need an on air personality? I have always wanted to host tradio AND I have a face for radio.

By: Joe

Joe — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:57:54 +0000

Esrarti wrote: ”I can’t wait to hear “Live from South Park Tavern, in Dayton Ohio- front man from Guided by Voices, Bob Pollard, and South Park’s own Kelley Deal with the Breeders” coming off iTunes.”
This would be awesome, although I don’t know if the Deals and Bob get along… A local radio show would be great. Lots of great music in Dayton. Bob Pollard releases about 6 albums a year! The early-mid 90’s were great for Dayton music. Every time I’m out of town and mention I’m from Dayton, I get at least one “Hey, Guided by Voices were great!” It’s a shame people in Dayton don’t seem to know who these bands were, or berate them for whatever reason. I personally know several people come to Dayton a couple times a year specifically for GBV/Pollard, Breeders, Ex-Braniac/Enon shows…
I like to refer to Cooper Park downtown as Pollard Park.

By: Finding Local Music on Dayton Radio « For the Love of Dayton

Finding Local Music on Dayton Radio « For the Love of Dayton — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:54:56 +0000

[...] at DaytonMostMetro on local music got me thinking about music and the sound of Dayton. Esrati chimed in this morning and back in the day Jeffery at Daytonology sounded off every now and then. While [...]

By: Bruce Kettelle

Bruce Kettelle — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:28:38 +0000

I should probably mention I worked in radio for eight years, the last two (79-80) were at the number on progressive rock station in Boston and we did feature local music both in the daily rotation and during special weekend broadcasts.

By: Bruce Kettelle

Bruce Kettelle — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:26:13 +0000

Local music programming has always need a tough sell to commercial stations. I’ve lived and listened in Philly, Boston, DC, and Charleston SC. Boston probably does (did) the best job. Commonfolk will spin the dial when they hear things unfamiliar. It is a gradual process to make it work. I like the streaming idea. I also beleive the local scene should have a coordinated way to tell their story to radio that includes weekly or monthly local sales reports.

There is a lot of competition in the streaming world. Capturing enough audience to make an impact takes more than just putting up a random shuffle of songs. There needs to be more behind it.

By: David Esrati

David Esrati — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:16:09 +0000

@Wesley

Clear Channel isn't smart enough. Even if we gave them the feed they'd blow it.

Let's get our first broadcasts going and then we'll go talk to CC.

By: Wesley Wellbilly

Wesley Wellbilly — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:39:21 +0000

Do it on and offline. Put political pressure on the Clear Channel stations to do something like a “Live from the South Park Tavern” show on the air. The message and hubub from skipping out on local talent I think was heard by the corporacratic crowd who run Dayton’s mainstream media after that last big expensive hooorah at UD arena. Now is a good time to move. A flashmob protest for inclusion of local talent on mainstream radio outlets would be good too.
The mainstream media have robbed us in many ways of our local uniqueness, but Dayton’s music scene shows that people, despite being robbed of many opportunities due to the exclusion of locality in much of the mainstream local broadcast media, persevere nonetheless.