Comments on: Dayton Development Coalition preaches to the choir: Dayton Region Rally

By: Jeff of Louisville

Jeff of Louisville — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:42:11 +0000

New facilities and expansions included in the analyses must meet at least one of three criteria — involve a capital investment of at least $1 million, create at least 50 new jobs, or add at least 20,000 square feet of new floor area. The database does not track retail and government projects, or schools and hospitals.

…sounds like something is going on out there? It sure would be nice to see a bit more analyses of this activity to see where the growth is happening (what sector).

By: jstults

jstults — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:42:14 +0000

“The successes and business growth that contributed to this win are made possible by a regional network of collaboration and partnerships,” said Jim Leftwich, president and chief executive officer of the Dayton Development Coalition.

Dayton MSA Top in Site Selection Rankings

By: Anna

Anna — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:41:11 +0000

I’m new to this thing but I read a couple of comments and thought, ‘Heck, I’ll leave one too.” Since Dayton has obviously been kicked off of the national and global manufacturing train, why don’t we focus on what the state needs and manufacture things the state can use? Like using the old Delphi and GM plants to build rail cars for an interstate rail system between Ohio’s largest cities. Manufacturing eco-(green and economical)windmills to power Ohio and most of the Northeast and possibly parts of Canada. The Southwest is having significant water shortage issues. One of them is being addressed by the Navajo themselves in Arizona. They helped to shut down a coal plant which was using pure, fresh water to slurry coal to the large cities of the Western part of the United States. If that coal plant was able to sell carbon credits to companies after is shut down, why can’t the GM and Delphi plants do the same thing? And if they are doing that, why isn’t Dayton reaping some of those profits? I think it’s time to take off the blinders. Dayton can do this. We can do this. If you don’t think you can, simply step down from the pedestal you put yourself up on and slowly back away. With the many unemployed… someone will surely fill your spot.

By: Gary Staiger

Gary Staiger — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:13:59 +0000

Oh well, I don’t know that DDC is Inc., and, is it bad faith if I do nothing with them and make no profit?
In any case D Greene has it correct, the out of state consultant will come first…

By: David Lauri

David Lauri — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:49:20 +0000

Wonder what the DDC would pay for these domain names that I own?

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybersquatting :
“Cybersquatting (also known as domain squatting), according to the United States federal law known as the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act, is registering, trafficking in, or using a domain name with bad faith intent to profit from the goodwill of a trademark belonging to someone else. The cybersquatter then offers to sell the domain to the person or company who owns a trademark contained within the name at an inflated price.”

By: Bridget

Bridget — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:41:34 +0000

David,

I did feel bad about the negativity surrounding the event but not so much now. I’m actually becoming angry at how out of touch they are. Our “leaders” continue to pat each other on the back saying how great they are. Our “leaders” continue to do the same thing the same way with the same results. Our “leaders” are not listening to and evaluating information from ALL of their constituency.

If it was a rally, it should have been more uplifting and less lecture.

If it was a rally for the community, then ALL of the community should have been invited and it should have been held at a time the “average” citizen could be there.

If it was a showcase to retain young professionals and creatives, then they shouldn’t have had so many “old guard” talking AT the audience.

If it was a showcase of local talent, then ALL talent should have had local ties.

If they wanted to change the negative attitude, they should have not been spouting the same things we’ve already heard. It hasn’t been working. It’s not going to work this time.

Finally, why wasn’t there some call to action? Why wasn’t/isn’t there a list of ways to get involved? Ways to help? I know where they are because I am involved. But, there was no guidance on how to get there if someone wants to participate in the rebuild.

The optimist in me had high hopes but I left frustrated.

By: D. Greene

D. Greene — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:54:25 +0000

@Gary S: I’m sure while you would probably give the DDC a fair price for the domains, first they would have to hire a consultant from out of state at around 30 to 40 grand to tell them what domain name should be buying that would best synergize their core competencies or some such rot, so don’t count on making a sale anytime soon!

By: Gary Staiger

Gary Staiger — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:52:29 +0000

@BrucE
Excellent article, recommended reading

By: Bruce Kettelle

Bruce Kettelle — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:27:47 +0000

David, my Rally story is not quite as critical but already had a samilar headline. I did take pics of most of the presenters that came out soso in the modest lighting. totallytrotwood.blogspot.com/2009/11/dayton-cheerleaders-preach-to-choir.html

By: Gary Staiger

Gary Staiger — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:12:33 +0000

I was being cynical…

By: Wesley Wellbilly

Wesley Wellbilly — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:58:17 +0000

Probably nothing since they’re both too long to be worth anything.

By: Gary Staiger

Gary Staiger — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:30:35 +0000

DAYTONDEVELOPMENTCOALITION.COM

DAYTONDEVELOPMENTCOALITION.ORG

hMMM…Wonder what the DDC would pay for these domain names that I own???

By: David Esrati

David Esrati — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:11:03 +0000

@bruce- great article- talks about the disconnect quite clearly.

Sherif Hedayat, who could have had the people laughing a bit as an MC- wrote his take on the rally: he couches things more carefully than I would: http://www.sherifhedayat.com/featured-articles/dayton-region-rally/2009/11/19/

By: Bruce Kettelle

Bruce Kettelle — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:25:11 +0000

You are almost right David except innovation does not start with mistakes. Innovation starts with empathy! http://designmind.frogdesign.com/articles/the-substance-of-things-not-seen/innovation-starts-with-empathy.html

By: David Esrati

David Esrati — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:11:51 +0000

There are some people who worked hard on this rally- and are extremely hurt by the "negativity"- fully missing the point that this is a learning experiment- there will be set backs.

Leadership is never for the thin skinned. Trust me.

If we could do this as a do-over, what would it look like? What time of day would we hold it? Who would speak? Who would perform? Who would MC? Who would do a painting (lol)?

If nothing else- this discussion has sparked a few good ideas- and things we need to look at. My mind hasn't stopped- just thinking if we had presented Bcycle, Dayton Streaming Originals, Walk to work tax credits, H1B for HubZOnes, or any of a bunch of other ideas- along with a showcase of what we'd look like as a REGION of ONE instead of a region of many.

To those who are feeling hurt right now- I'm not going to let you twist in the wind. We will get this right on version 2. That's how innovation starts- with mistakes.

Celebrate them.

By: David Lauri

David Lauri — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:44:55 +0000

It’s fun that Get Midwest’s newsletter is called the Advocate. http://www.advocate.com — oh, wait, wrong Advocate.

By: Let’s send the Dayton sound global: marketing we can afford.

Let’s send the Dayton sound global: marketing we can afford. — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:19:05 +0000

[...] Midwest” campaign that made a lot of money for Congressman Turner and his wife- and this weeks “Dayton Region Rally” which was more like a college [...]

By: Bridget

Bridget — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:30:22 +0000

You can spend time debating the virtues of the aquifer or the cause of Dayton’s woes. You can whine and moan about taxes and discuss changes needed in the future but, we have to live within the parameters we have now. We don’t, however, need to wait for governmental or quasi-governmental agencies to make this happen. They don’t own the process. Frankly, I wouldn’t care about Get Midwest or Get Dayton or Get Here Now, whatever they want to use, if they had the skills to back up the development part of their name.
Specific Idea #1
– Identify 20 (or whatever workable number) companies, ready for move/expansion, with whom we could develop a mutually beneficial relationship.
What companies come to mind?

By: David Esrati

David Esrati — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:18:10 +0000

Hell froze over- the Dayton Daily News agreed with me: http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/opinion/entries/2009/11/18/editorial_dayton_region_rally.html?cxtype=feedbot

And- now says the Dayton Development Coalition has failed twice at marketing (imagine that).

Too bad they are talking about old news by now.

By: Will Brooks

Will Brooks — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:43:58 +0000

Why the hell would the Dayton Development Coalition call themselves http://www.getmidwest.com??….

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